Year 5 Discussion Homework- World Poetry Day.

Date: 21st Mar 2017 @ 1:19pm

Today has been World Poetry Day! KS2 have been looking at Blake's "Tyger" and interpreting it through different Art forms, including: Dance, Music, Art and Creative Writing. Now, some people are aguing that the Arts should take over Maths and English in the school day. Your homework is to write a discussion text to explore this.

 

 

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Grace C wrote:

Why should we have more active school lessons ?

Miss Croot - a well known class governor - has argued that on some occasions we should have more active work from school that includes more talents; furthermore, we should also have Maths and English lessons too, so this results in us being unsure on what lessons we should have. Read on for more information on young childrens learning.

Why should normal school lessons stay the same ?

Firstly, we make the point that Maths and English should be an important school educational lesson, and not a very rare school lesson that isn't very long. Because young children want more active lessons, this puts governments under pressure and creates bad conditions that aren't good for the country. Moreover, English is a very important school lesson because it provides important punctuation and grammar to help learning. Also, Maths provides lots of number counting and adding, subtracting and lots more. In addition, these subjects are of vital importance for tests, GCSEs and lots other subjects in education!

Why should school lessons change to more active work ?

Secondly, we make another point that by doing other lessons that don't include English or Maths is a great idea because, sometimes children get rather board of constantly doing the same type of lessons (that they do every day) and not getting a change. If we consider both points, doing less English and Maths can't be good for education; on the other hand, expressing yourself is a marvellous thing too because you are showing people your talents and fabulous work that you have created maybe with your friends! Examples of benefits we get from these lessons are: in dance; you can learn team work and co-ordination; in Art, you learn the skill of drawing and painting in straight lines and different shapes; in Music you learn the pulse and tempo of songs and, you also learn how to create Music and how to know the difference between the songs that have lower or higher pitches; in creative writing, you can let you imagination go free and write down your fabulous ideas that you and your teachers like and show off the sentences that you have created through your own mind.

Conclusion

In conclusion, I think that we should continue learning Maths and English as these subjects are very important. But not only that, we should spend more time doing active subjects in the afternoon, and at least do these once or twice a week during school time.

Zachary Walker wrote:

great use of reasons

Lauren M wrote:

Miss McDermott -a word wide govener - has argued having to do dance and music more ofte is decreecing people's amount of work in there books ; however, some people do not agree with this they think that we should do dance and music so this maybe the future of this school.

The vast majority of children believe that this wouldn't be a good idea but some people would like this to happen

Patrick C wrote:

Rumuors, have circlulated St Paul's, about whether or not Maths and English should be replaced by Arts (dance, music, drawing and creative writing).All the children were involed in the discussion.Here are some of the points they made.

Reasons for English and Maths to remain in school:

Firstly,we discussed why Maths and English should remain. Evey single child must possess basic skills like-reading, writing and counting.Without these abilities no-one can operate in a real life. If you are working hard you are learning more complicated things daily.Your knowledge about the world will increase; consequently, you could find a better job in the future. Without the basic maths skills,somebody could trick you even at the shop, not giving you enough change.

Reasons for doing Arts in school:

If children do the same things everyday (Maths and English) they will get bored and will not put as much effort into lessons during school-time.When doing arts children will get more creative;consequently,this will help if they wanted to become an artist.Through art, children can express themself.Very often, art lessons are more relaxing so usually the childen enjoy them more.

In my opinion,Maths and English should stay;however,more Arts should be introduced in school-time.Teachers can include artistic elements like painting,drama,music and creative writing to lesson plans just to make an intresting balance between fun and knowledge.

Darcy R wrote:

Should we have more physical education in school?

For many months, a variety of children, teachers and well-known governments have been discussing overseas whether their should be more physical education -art, dancing and music- during lesson time or we should stick to regular learning education (English, maths e.c.t). Dr Rearden -a renown, educational, governor from London- has tried to settle this argument by saying we should do more physical education ;however, we should also have some English and maths to make it more fair. In this text you will find out plenty of reasons and information as to whether or not this risky suggestion should have its chance.

Why should we keep average school lessons the same?

Firstly, a variety of teachers and governors across the world have repeatedly argued that we should still have our typical lessons five days a week because it can be very worthy when it comes to test papers further up the school including : reasoning papers and your GCSE's. Children and some convinced teachers across the globe have also pulled a face at this somewhat of "terrible" suggestion this can also damage the governors confidence and could have a highly atrocious affect on the country. In addition, English and maths are on of the most popular subjects in many schools that have heard of this belief and putting a stop to it could leave a unacceptable condition on the brains of younger children. Also,maths includes many other things that could help further on in children's life (for example) : Fractions, area, perimeter, addition and obviously subtraction.Without this skill the country's newest adults could not do their job properly!

Why should lessons be alternated to more physical education?

Governors have also pointed to the fact that these activities must be a part of children's curriculum and these should happen at least two (or three) times a week which is enough to convince children that English and maths is important but also learning through doing something more active is also something that should be carefully thought through about. Moreover, these activities are very beneficial to children's confidence : dancing (you can put all of your ideas together to make a beautiful piece of work) , Art (by doing English and maths all of the time children cannot let themselves relax and show them true semves but by having more time to do art is a great time to show your true talent) and finally music (by working together to put all of your ideas in one is amazing to create a marvellous piece of work by expressing your emotions truly). In my opinion I would have more physical education as it is important to children's confidence and social skills!

Conclusion

Considering both sides of the argument, I personally recommended that children should at least be doing more than a "bit" of active education to balance the argument. Despite that fact that English and maths is also very important, I feel that by having a bit of "activness" to school lessons is a very special treat. The government have the inclosure of children's education in their hands and hopefully they make the right decision to enquire that children's curriculum is a fair balance of skills.

Yours sincerely Dr Barry

Veronica P wrote:

Miss pelech.

Children and teachers are coming toghether to discuse if wether or not more people profer doing dancing,art and music more than Maths and English.

Whith I the fun shud stay.

I think the danc,art and music shud be used more because it will help peoples career.Also,I think it's will help peoples imagination and if we danc we will loos wight and people will enjoy coming to school iven more then thay do now.

I think maths and english shud stay.

I think maths and english shud stay because it will get buring doing the sime thing agen and it isen't fer if the year six are doing sats and every one els are having fun it woulden't be fair and are english books wouden't bebuteful

Maisie P wrote:

Since the government recommends that there should be more maths and english during the day , the staff of primary schools all around the globe have been forced to restrict the hours of the day to ten more minutes each lesson . if you are unsure on lessons we should have, read on for more information .

Why normal lessons should stay the same.

Firstly,journalistsalong with governments point to the fact that maths and english are the most important education a child should have . Further more, children would like more fun activities; there fore , this will put class governments in the uUK under a huge amount o f pressure than it already was .More over, english is a very inportant subject during the school time been given because it provides grammar ,verbs, adverbs and punctuation for parenthesis . Also,maths provides lots of number counting , co-ordanates , subtracting and many many more . As a result, these subjects are a vital importance because of GSCEs later in the future.

Why lessons should include more active work

Secondly, we would like to make another fact that by doing the same work over and over again can get rather bring ( that includes maths and english). In fact, changing maths and english to more arts and crafts could change their mood from being board to having a really positive attitude towards creative activities. If we consider doing less english and more activities can once again change their attitude to being more positive about learning and the same with maths ; on the other hand ,expressing your self is a marvellous thing too because you are showing people you talent an fabulous work that you have created . examples of ban a fits we get from these lessons are :in dance you get to build your confidence of working together with people you have never worked with before and get to learn new moves each day , in art, you learn the skill of drawing and painting. Despite the fact that some people say that you are born with the gift of drawing were others say that you could learn how to draw . Also,in music you can learn different tempos and puts of songs and you also earn how to play unusual instruments there are in the world .

Conclusion

In conclusion ,i think that we should keep the more relevant subjects towards our learning -Maths and English . But not only that we should opend more time doing subjects like dance , music, and art in an afternoon . In addition, pleas take note that we should do this one or twice a week .

Maisie P wrote:

Since the government recommends that there should be more maths and english during the day , the staff of primary schools all around the globe have been forced to restrict the hours of the day to ten more minutes each lesson . if you are unsure on lessons we should have, read on for more information .

Why normal lessons should stay the same.

Firstly,journalistsalong with governments point to the fact that maths and english are the most important education a child should have . Further more, children would like more fun activities; there fore , this will put class governments in the uUK under a huge amount o f pressure than it already was .More over, english is a very inportant subject during the school time been given because it provides grammar ,verbs, adverbs and punctuation for parenthesis . Also,maths provides lots of number counting , co-ordanates , subtracting and many many more . As a result, these subjects are a vital importance because of GSCEs later in the future.

Why lessons should include more active work

Secondly, we would like to make another fact that by doing the same work over and over again can get rather bring ( that includes maths and english). In fact, changing maths and english to more arts and crafts could change their mood from being board to having a really positive attitude towards creative activities. If we consider doing less english and more activities can once again change their attitude to being more positive about learning and the same with maths ; on the other hand ,expressing your self is a marvellous thing too because you are showing people you talent an fabulous work that you have created . examples of ban a fits we get from these lessons are :in dance you get to build your confidence of working together with people you have never worked with before and get to learn new moves each day , in art, you learn the skill of drawing and painting. Despite the fact that some people say that you are born with the gift of drawing were others say that you could learn how to draw . Also,in music you can learn different tempos and puts of songs and you also earn how to play unusual instruments there are in the world .

Conclusion

In conclusion ,i think that we should keep the more relevant subjects towards our learning -Maths and English . But not only that we should opend more time doing subjects like dance , music, and art in an afternoon . In addition, pleas take note that we should do this one or twice a week .

Eva-Mae J wrote:

Should children at st pauls do more of the arts?

Ever since world poetry day, the children of st pauls have been discussing whether or not they should do more dancing,art and music instead of English and maths.This discussion text will tell you whether or not we should keep the current curriculum.

why we should keep the curriculum:

Dr Johnson- a renown educational phsychologist - has argued that we should keep the current curriculum because if children want to become a writer then they need to learn grammar in English.Also,if children want to become a mathmatician, they need to learn maths. Furthermore, if children want to do their a-levels in college, they need to have a balanced curriculum of English,maths,science,topic,RE,drama,MFL and circle time. In addition,children might get bored of just doing the arts.

Why we should not keep the curriculum:
The government have argued that children should do more of the arts because children are moaning that they don not do enough of the arts. Also,teachers are might be getting bored of teaching basic subjects. Furthermore, some people are arguing that we should do more dance ( especially girls) because it could help our mental well-being. In addition, the teachers have argued that it would be a good idea because children could get rid off their angry/sad emtions by doing the arts. As a result , by children doing more of the arts, could mean that they would stop moaning and concentrate more on their school work. If children do get to do more of the arts, childrens statistics in education could increase by 20%.

In conclusion, i hope you enjoyed reading my discussion text on whether or not children should do more of the arts. My opinion is that children should do more of the arts incase they want to become a dancer or musician or artist.

Erin S wrote:

The class Governor has argued that we should have more fun and active lessons within the school day, see below for my point of view :-

Why should we have more active lessons?

I believe it would be better for the children to have different and active lessons as this would keep their attention from drifting and would keep them interested in what the teacher has to say. Sometimes basic lessons such as Maths and English can become a bore as it's repetitive work and can quickly lose a child's attention. By making the lessons fun and active could help them to concentrate and therefore take in more information.

Also, making lessons fun will help those children who struggle to learn by conventional methods.

If Maths and English lessons remain the same boring, unimaginative sessions then the children will only learn boring and unimaginative work.

Oliver P wrote:

Why we should we have less music and poetry in our classroom?

Poets and musicians have said that they would have to make more music and poems to surply the schools;also, they have to make poems in all shapes and sizes because of different year groups. Government agreed that it shouldn't stay because children are missing on life changing work. Because of its detrimental effects on children's maths and English knowledge, then they will have to balence it quite well with topic,religious education and topic. Even though it helps it show your feelings, I still think it should not be a every day lesson.

Why we should have more music and poetry?

Because you get to show your emotions and dancing calms you down. Poems help you with reading tests and other kindes of tests. In later years, you will do music preformences and starting now is a big step ahead of other kids that haven't started. Also, it helps kids in their adult stages because if they become a musician they will be one step ahead. Musicologists across the globe have said that it should stay because it helps with showing them self and becoming more popular.

Conclusion

Hope you enjoyed this discussion text and mabey your second guessing your final answer.(mine is more dance and poems).

Olivia H wrote:

Should more lessons be based on The Arts?
Ever since World Poetry Day, the St Paul’s Catholic Primary School children have been arguing as to whether or not The Arts should be added to the everyday school curriculum. Some of them believe that The Arts allow you to express yourself; consequently, they think it should be added to the everyday curriculum. Some, however, believe The Arts will distract children from their learning. As a result, they believe they should not be allowed. If I were you, I’d read on.

Why Shouldn’t They Be Allowed?
Some St Paul’s School Governors have argued that Mathematics and English are vital to getting a good job. By doing ‘The Arts’ instead of them, they believe children’s intelligence could decrease by up to around twenty- five percent. In addition, Miss Flynn- the head teacher of St Paul’s- has pointed out that by dancing late at night, children could lose sleep. Thus, they would be tired for school the next day. Moreover, when the children have to do SPaG tests, they will have no knowledge of this as all of their SPaG time will have been taken up by The Arts lessons. GCSE’s- the exams that you take at sixteen- are vital for getting a wanted career. If you spend all this crucial time on dancing (etc.), you will get terrible results in these exams; consequently, your career could be ruined. Since the children at St Paul’s are very proud of their work-filled books, The Arts would take over valuable lesson time; as a result, they would have less down in their books. Additionally, The Arts are not for everybody and this could demotivate people and adversely affect their other work. Finally, lessons based on The Arts can be very expensive and this would take important resources away from the school.

Why Should They Be Allowed?
Miss Hogan- a pupil from St Paul’s Catholic Primary School- has argued that The Arts are indispensable to the children’s education. Furthermore, she believes they can help you with your creativity and confidence. Dance- one of The Arts- can help you express your feelings which can cause you to feel better about yourself. Academic work alone could become rather boring after doing it every day repeatedly; thus, reluctant learners might thrive in studying The Arts. Whilst studying The Arts, you can learn some incredible life skills: in art, you learn how to use perspectives and how to sketch; in dance, you get to stretch your muscles and shake away your troubles (which can come in very handy later in life); in music, you can learn about rhythm, pulse, pitch and tone, which you would need if you were looking to become a music teacher; in drama, you can gain confidence in performing in front of other people (or even just speaking); and in poetry you can be creative with your language and there is no right or wrong.

Ultimately, I believe that The Arts are of vital importance in the school curriculum. I believe this because I think The Arts can help shy people flourish and make new friends. Also, it can help bring people together. I hope after reading this you will consider both sides of the argument and possibly change your original decision. If I were the head teacher of St Paul’s Catholic Primary School, I would let The Arts shine brightly throughout the school.

George G wrote:

Should arts take over English and maths in schools?

Dr Smith-a well known educational teacher-has argued that we should have some more active lessons instead of maths and English; furthermore, it has been scientifically proven that interaction within lessons significantly improves the pupil’s ability to absorb new facts.

Pros for active lessons:

•More fun
•Keep children’s attention
•Keeps the children energetic
•Could build confidence by taking part
•Keeps them interested

Pros for English and maths:

•Need basic skills for communication
•Need maths skills for every day living
•You need maths and English to pass your GCSEs

Maths and English are an important part of pupil development. English is an essential lesson as it teaches children grammar and punctuation and the ability to communicate with others. Also, we need maths because it helps us with every day things such as paying bills, shopping and wages.

Active lessons would be a great idea, it would make learning more interesting and fun. Maybe a good way of introducing this would be including role play in English lessons and creative writing. I think a good balance between traditional lessons and active lessons is the best option. Keeping learning fun helps keep children interested and focused on the topic. Because pupils want to have more active lessons during school time, this puts the Government in a slight predicament as to whether or not the current teaching methods meet with the children's needs.

Ewan M wrote:

Should active be allowed allowed?

Many people ( such as teachers and governments around the world ) have argued as for whether or not active lessons should be allowed in primary schools and secondary schools. There has been been a variety of reasons that this opinion should be banned , or be allowed. So if you're confused or can't make your mind up , read this discussion text to make you mind up.

Active education

If we don't have any active lessons schools around the world will be wiped out ( extinct ) as everyone would concentrate more on education, rather than being fit and healthy. It promotes teamwork and resilience skills - if you didn't have these , all day you will be doing is independent work ( which is not fun at all !! ) . Also , people will be obese ( a school in Scotland , called St.Nynians , have a teacher who makes them run a mile !! ) .

Health and safety

Some students - that aren't as physical - could suffer some serious injuries , such as : fractures , broken bones and dislocations. Also , other injuries that can leave you in conditions you don't want to be in . Children , who aren't as good at sport , will start to feel left out and also will give them pressure.

Why normal lessons should stay

Teachers point to the fact that this option is suitable for education because , if you focused on sports all your childhood , you wouldn't be as smart as other people and you wouldn't be up to date on education . Also , if you don't educate propaly , you may not have a chance to graduate.

Charlie G wrote:

Why should we replace maths and English with more active lessons?

A large majority of people, (including governors) has argued that maths and English should be replaced by music and dancing; however, in this text you will find lots of facts about why singing and dancing should take over the opportunity of maths and English.

Why singing and dancing should be allowed?

First of all, governors has made a clear point that if children do maths and English everyday, students will get bored and become lazy in their work; furthermore, we see why children do want to do singing and dancing because they can express themselves, they can also express their emotions for example if they are happy or sad, mad or angry and finally upset or excited. Whilst children are learning, teachers have been secretly emailing each other proving their points that dancing and music should be allowed or not. Some students absolutely love dancing and some students are not to keen on dancing but if they give it a go, this could prove a point that dancing and music is a nice thing to do so you can express yourself. Teachers-who have arguing why singing and dancing should be excepted in school- have told the governors but they are not entirely sure yet.

Why school lessons should stay the same?

Now, we make a point that school lessons should not be replace by dancing and music because when you do your GCSEs you will need to know as much English and maths as possible and if you do music and dancing everyday it will get boaring and believe me you start to get the feeling that you want to write. If we did music and dancing then think of all the subjects we will miss out on like science, art, topic, religion, maths and English. In art you get the skill of drawing, in English you get the skill of writing fabulous sentences created by you, in maths you get the skill of counting, multiplying, division and addition. Moreover, if you love drawing but you are not confident on maths you can draw shapes and you will start to enjoy maths abit more.

Conclusion.

in conclusion, think we should continue to do maths and English but I cant see why we can't do music one afternoon and dancing in the morning. But, all of the subjects are very important to us because we need to know lots so if you want to be a builder when you grow up you will need to know the length and width which is leaded by maths.

Zachary W wrote:

The question is whether children should continue learning mainly maths and english in school, or whether art forms, including dance, music, art and creative writing should take over most of the school day.

I think that art forms should be part of the school day as they are interactive and enjoyable for children and they enhance a childs learning.

However, I think that maths and english are more important for children to learn as you cannot get a job after leaving school unless you are able to speak, read and write english and you are able to reason in maths and do arithmetic. Also you need to be able manage your bank account when you are an adult.

|Therefore, I conclude that although arts are important for school children to get involved in at school, maths and english are even more important to get a good grasp of.

Ciera W wrote:

This week at St Pauls we have been discussing whether english and maths are more important for school children to spend time learning than the arts - including dance, music, art and creative writing.

I enjoy maths and english lessons and think they are important for when we get a job and also in everyday life - such as writing letters and managing money, but I enjoy art even more. Learning about the arts makes children more creative and they learn to use their imagination and their initiative more than in english or maths lessons - these are useful life skills too.

Therefore I think that it is important to spend more of the school day learning about the arts and less learning about english and maths, especially if you want a job in the arts when you leave school.

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